Sunday, September 11, 2005

I take issue with Winnie Monsod

Sabi ni Mareng Winnie:

I ask the reader's pardon for going off on a tangent at this point, but it is an important one: On the basis of the results of the two major surveys in the run-up to the elections, of the exit polls conducted not only by the Social Weather Stations but by media organizations, and of the statements of the Catholic bishops who were closely monitoring the situation in their respective dioceses, it has to be clear that Ms Arroyo won last year's presidential elections; she did not steal the position. That she cheated and lied is still to be resolved, but then, cheating and lying seem endemic in the political game.

I'm sorry, but I find it difficult to trust the three survey firms (SWS, Pulse, NFO Trends) for letting Mercy Abad's people do all the data gathering and polling work for them during the election campaign.

Eto yung post ko dati, dated April 27, 2004:

Did you know that Mercy Abad's people are responsible for doing all the interviews and data gathering for 3 differenent "independent" Surveys firms: SWS, Pulse Asia and NFO Trends

Scary huh?

You'd think that these different survey groups would have their OWN people conducting interviews and collect data just like ANY OTHER SURVEY GROUPS in the world like Gallup, Zogby, Rasmussen, FOXNEWS.

Pero hindi eh. SWS and Pulse Asia are totally dependent on Mercy Abad's organization. And Mercy also owns NFO Trends.

Here's more on Mercy Abad and her connections with SWS and Pulse.

You of all people Solita Monsod, SHOULD know that since ikaw ang nagsabi na SWS and PULSE are both dependent on Mercy Abad's people to gather data.

Of course, sinabi mo rin na "trustworthy" si Mercy Abad, and coming from a pro-Arroyo person like you (even if you claim that you are not), that means kabaligtaran yan ng katotohanan.

(And here's a look back at the SWS Exit Poll fiasco. Basahin nyo yung comment ni Dick Morris doon.

Ellen Tordesillas provides more details.)

as for media organizations' surveys, they rely on SWS, PULSE and NFO Trends surveys too, Ms. Monsod... unless you consider those radio "exit polls" as "scientific" and "credible". Para mo na ring sinabi na "mapagkakatiwalaan" at "scientific" ang mga Debate text message surveys.

at sabi rin raw ng simbahan na "credible" ang nakaraang presidential elections. Yah, katulad rin yan ng sinabi nung NAMFREL na "absolutely credible" raw ang presidential elections.

At hindi lahat ng major surveys ay nagsasabi na nanalo si Arroyo. Yung Ibon surveys conducted before (released apr 30, 2004) and after the elections show FPJ winning. And I don't think they relied on Mercy Abad to do polling work for them.

Sabi pa ni Winnie:
And a tangent to the tangent, because it is still possible to do this now: After the 1992 elections, disturbed by charges that Fidel V. Ramos had stolen the election from Miriam Santiago, then-chair Christian Monsod of the Commission on Elections (Comelec) allowed a panel of experts to review the results, including Comelec data. Their main finding was that there was evidence of cheating affecting both sides, but these tended to cancel one another and did not materially affect the outcome of the elections.

Ya sure, FPJ "cheated" too, or else Gloria Macapagal Arroyo would have "won" by wider margin of 8-9%, according to the fake president herself.

UPDATE: Mareng Winnie: GMA is the REAL president!

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Anonymous said...

good day to you. I'm sorry but I have to agree with mareng winnie. i voted for Arroyo as did most of the Visayas population. She won here fair and square. We know it. Why would we vote for FPJ??! Tell me. I won't vote for somebody who didn't even finish high school. Poor families send their kids to high school and college even with their meager income because they believe education is the way to make life better for their children. so why would we vote for FPJ who didn't have a high school diploma? and why only investigate the President? why not noli, why note Jinggoy, why not investigate all of those in the government and let's see if there's an official left sitting in congress and senate! sobrang self-righteousness eh. they're not even looking at the plank in their eye.

Anonymous said...

haii nako anonymous. ewan ko lang sa iyo.

ganyan na ganyan nga ang mga rason ng mga kasama ni aling glo eh. kesyo, matalino sila kaya si aling glo ang binoto nila.

helllo!!!! kesyo bobo kami kaya si Lacson, si FPJ, si Bro. Eddie, SI Raul ROcco ang binoto namin???

magising ka naman.

ang katotohanan ay, mas marami ang nakakakilala kay FPJ kaysa kay aling GLO. Punta ka sa bario namin kung may nakakila ba kay ALing GLO. Itanong mo rin kung kilala nila si FPJ. at itanong mo kung sino binoto nila.

sa totoo lang ano. si ALing GLo nakilala dahil sa JUETENG at sa HELLO GARCI tape niya.

sana nag singer na lang siya. baka box office hit pa huh.

haiii. nako mga tao nga naman ano na nag aakalang dahil matalino sila ay si GMA ang ibinoto nila.

ano ka hilo???

Anonymous said...

at eto pa ang totoo huh. mas marami po sa ating mga PINOY ang hindi nakapagtapos at hindi nakapag higschool diploma noh na sawang sawa na sa mga may masteral degree pa na naghahari-harian sa pinas na hindi naman nakatulong sa maliliit.

kaya ang mas nakakarami mas binoto si FPJ. haiii nako.

magising ka puwede ba?

Anonymous said...

Kaya naman kilala nila si FPJ dahil artista sya. Yun lang ang qualification nya. At siguro ang bario mo ay liblib na lugar. May kuryente naman siguro sa bario mo ano.

Anonymous said...

kaya nga anonymous eh. kaya nga siya nanalo eh. at alam mo naman di ba na hindi porket taga bario at hindi nakatapos ng pag aaral ay bobo.

Anonymous said...

Winnie Monsod is one person whose opinion is worth nothing. Do not even bother to read her articles. Biased.

Anonymous said...

hai nako. kahit nanonood ako noon ng debate, pansin ko lang... masyadong maka aleng GLO etong si mareng winnie no.

haii nako. dapat maglaba na lang siya.

Anonymous said...

Palengkera is one word that best describes her.